1 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:17,800 most recently I have taken on the 2 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:21,560 project of the Starchild skull it's a 3 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:25,580 complicated case it's a big case because 4 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:27,470 the skull has been out there for 16 5 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:29,390 years under the direction and lead 6 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:33,460 investigation of Lloyd Pye after his 7 00:00:37,810 --> 00:00:36,110 unfortunate passing it's been two years 8 00:00:39,130 --> 00:00:37,820 since anything has been done with the 9 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:39,140 skull 10 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:41,809 the original owner Melanie young has 11 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:46,640 asked me to reopen this case and to take 12 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:50,000 a fresh look at the data and see where 13 00:00:54,959 --> 00:00:52,070 we can go with it my favorite thing 14 00:00:59,100 --> 00:00:54,969 about this is being an independent 15 00:01:03,459 --> 00:00:59,110 investigator and looking at this case 16 00:01:07,570 --> 00:01:03,469 completely brand-new what I've decided 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:07,580 to do is to respectfully archive Lloyd's 18 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:11,450 work for two reasons one it's his 19 00:01:16,540 --> 00:01:13,729 I don't want to hijack any of Lloyd's 20 00:01:20,919 --> 00:01:16,550 great work and his mindset and direction 21 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:20,929 that will stand on its own however in my 22 00:01:28,059 --> 00:01:25,300 investigation I have a different tactic 23 00:01:30,910 --> 00:01:28,069 basically it's a very forensic minded 24 00:01:34,499 --> 00:01:30,920 very scientific based investigation but 25 00:01:37,690 --> 00:01:34,509 it's also keeping this part of the 26 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:37,700 reopening of it completely independent 27 00:01:43,779 --> 00:01:41,119 also lends credibility to the scientific 28 00:01:45,729 --> 00:01:43,789 method which is to retest so everything 29 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:45,739 will have brand new samples everything 30 00:01:51,639 --> 00:01:49,310 will have brand new experts and at this 31 00:01:53,469 --> 00:01:51,649 point we're just gonna let the skull 32 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:53,479 speak for itself we're gonna let the 33 00:01:57,219 --> 00:01:56,090 scientist make the conclusions I'm not 34 00:02:00,339 --> 00:01:57,229 personally going to make a proclamation 35 00:02:02,169 --> 00:02:00,349 or conclusion at the end of the case I 36 00:02:05,290 --> 00:02:02,179 really believe that science is going to 37 00:02:07,029 --> 00:02:05,300 answer the question this time tens of 38 00:02:10,990 --> 00:02:07,039 thousands of people all over the world 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:11,000 this is a global interest in this little 40 00:02:17,970 --> 00:02:13,250 skull that is truly one-of-a-kind 41 00:02:20,559 --> 00:02:17,980 and for that reason alone people are 42 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:20,569 continually writing asking for more 43 00:02:24,130 --> 00:02:22,310 information about the skull where is it 44 00:02:26,059 --> 00:02:24,140 going what's going to happen to it since 45 00:02:28,099 --> 00:02:26,069 Lloyd's passing so I 46 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:28,109 hope they're happy that the research is 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:31,650 going to continue and continue with the 48 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:33,810 highest respect to Lloyd Pye and his 49 00:02:39,619 --> 00:02:36,900 work that we're going to leave it alone 50 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:39,629 we're gonna let Boyd have that so I hope 51 00:02:43,490 --> 00:02:41,129 that the public is really going to like 52 00:02:46,819 --> 00:02:43,500 our new direction and understand the 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:46,829 process and why we're taking the in this 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:50,730 specific type direction I was how this 55 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:53,370 project came to me or the investigation 56 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:54,239 request 57 00:02:57,699 --> 00:02:56,310 I was speaking out another conference 58 00:03:01,009 --> 00:02:57,709 and at the qat 59 00:03:03,949 --> 00:03:01,019 part of it one of the members or 60 00:03:06,349 --> 00:03:03,959 attendees came up and asked me what I 61 00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:06,359 thought the definitive proof was and 62 00:03:13,849 --> 00:03:09,480 what would be the smoking gun and of 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:13,859 course I said DNA and it wasn't too long 64 00:03:19,429 --> 00:03:16,290 that I see this lady come running down 65 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:19,439 the aisle literally running very excited 66 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:21,180 couldn't wait to get to the mic there 67 00:03:25,429 --> 00:03:22,769 was a couple other questions before her 68 00:03:26,929 --> 00:03:25,439 and when it came to her she was very 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:26,939 excited to tell me that she had the DNA 70 00:03:31,490 --> 00:03:29,370 and would like to speak to me after and 71 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:31,500 of course this is the original owner 72 00:03:37,999 --> 00:03:35,449 Melanie young of the Starchild and she 73 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:38,009 hadn't shown up to this conference 74 00:03:43,249 --> 00:03:39,900 thinking that they were going to reopen 75 00:03:46,999 --> 00:03:43,259 but I guess after my talk it inspired 76 00:03:47,809 --> 00:03:47,009 her to make a decision and she made it 77 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:47,819 at that moment 78 00:03:52,999 --> 00:03:50,250 yeah the first steps we wanted to take 79 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:53,009 in the investigation because the skull 80 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:55,470 one of the things that is indisputable 81 00:04:01,729 --> 00:03:59,280 is that it is 900 years old so my 82 00:04:03,379 --> 00:04:01,739 thinking of this was to bring it to the 83 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:03,389 people that actually study and are 84 00:04:11,050 --> 00:04:08,159 accredited experts on ancient cultures 85 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:11,060 of ancient peoples so I contacted 86 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:14,609 paleontologists anthropologists museums 87 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:18,630 that kept ancient remains such as 88 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:21,930 mastodons and so we took a trek down to 89 00:04:27,709 --> 00:04:24,270 mount blanco museum in crosby to texas 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:27,719 and had a few experts come in and 91 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:31,050 discuss the skull we had one of the 92 00:04:36,980 --> 00:04:33,810 nation's probably one of the most 93 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:36,990 prominent paleontologists come in which 94 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:38,030 is the 95 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:40,250 dentals have to be high this is a 96 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:42,200 one-of-a-kind skull it is truly 97 00:04:47,950 --> 00:04:44,990 one-of-a-kind in the whole world there's 98 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:47,960 never been another skull discovered that 99 00:04:55,750 --> 00:04:51,380 have this type of observable differences 100 00:04:58,210 --> 00:04:55,760 from a normal human skull so everything 101 00:05:02,850 --> 00:04:58,220 we do has to be not only above board but 102 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:02,860 top notch after we studied through 103 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:05,630 paleontologist point of view which he 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:08,120 took calipers that we did measurements 105 00:05:15,010 --> 00:05:10,570 you know a lot of photographs of course 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:15,020 casting a skull for the public this tens 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:16,370 of thousands of people love this skull 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:18,890 so we wanted to make it available for 109 00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:21,890 people that wanted to own a copy of it 110 00:05:27,610 --> 00:05:24,320 which much like the piraka is a long 111 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:27,620 gated skulls you can purchase copies of 112 00:05:32,410 --> 00:05:30,260 them museum quality copies so we wanted 113 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:32,420 to do this for the public as well and 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:34,850 there's a huge affection all over the 115 00:05:41,020 --> 00:05:38,090 world for this skull so our next step 116 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:41,030 was absolutely going to one-of-a-kind 117 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:43,010 museum there's only two of these in the 118 00:05:48,030 --> 00:05:45,080 world it's called an osteology Museum 119 00:05:52,540 --> 00:05:48,040 and it's located in Oklahoma City and 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:52,550 this museum is incredible and we had 121 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:54,770 several members of the staff take us 122 00:06:01,210 --> 00:05:57,290 into the back room and this is where we 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:01,220 had the bone specialist the the Aussie 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:04,010 ologist they specialize in skulls bone 125 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:08,410 and skeletons most most notably 126 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:11,240 articulated skulls so they completely 127 00:06:16,330 --> 00:06:13,400 understand everything there is to know 128 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:16,340 about bone being with them was a 129 00:06:20,530 --> 00:06:18,410 remarkable coup because what I didn't 130 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:20,540 realize was how many comparison samples 131 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:22,910 this skull has been called a monkey a 132 00:06:29,340 --> 00:06:26,510 dog a mole you know the most almost 133 00:06:32,220 --> 00:06:29,350 seemingly ridiculous explanations and 134 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:32,230 all the comparisons were in this museum 135 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:35,750 including the alleged age of the skull 136 00:06:41,970 --> 00:06:38,420 is five years old it's alleged it's not 137 00:06:44,830 --> 00:06:41,980 confirmed you know so we had plenty of 138 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:44,840 normal samples and even some abnormal 139 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:48,110 samples of five year old skulls 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:51,020 it was amazing comparison but we also 141 00:06:55,250 --> 00:06:51,810 had 142 00:06:58,700 --> 00:06:55,260 my mates and mammals and all sorts of 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:06:58,710 other comparison samples that we could 144 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:02,450 add there so and some of the other 145 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:05,550 skulls that he pulled out were down 146 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:09,900 syndrom hydrocephalic he did not have a 147 00:07:14,050 --> 00:07:12,510 replica or not a replica or he didn't 148 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:14,060 have an actual skull of that at the time 149 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:18,620 but this is where we had our largest 150 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:21,870 sample base and we needed that we needed 151 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:25,440 to start so that's really where we began 152 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:27,270 the investigation is going back 153 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:29,910 understanding the that the skull at the 154 00:07:34,330 --> 00:07:32,010 age of nine hundred years old we needed 155 00:07:39,590 --> 00:07:34,340 people who understand the cultures and 156 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:39,600 the properties of ancient peoples the 157 00:07:46,060 --> 00:07:41,310 things that I'm looking at going forward 158 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,070 is definitely taking the Starchild 159 00:07:50,810 --> 00:07:48,000 hopefully to conclusion 160 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:50,820 Melanie young one of her goals is to 161 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:52,950 solve the mystery of the Starchild skull 162 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:56,610 and to put it at rest in the most 163 00:08:01,850 --> 00:08:00,000 appropriate place possible and I want to 164 00:08:04,810 --> 00:08:01,860 help her with this to solve this mystery 165 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:04,820 could mean everything from medical 166 00:08:12,260 --> 00:08:08,910 science and testing it could mean a new 167 00:08:14,810 --> 00:08:12,270 species there's a lot of possibilities 168 00:08:17,450 --> 00:08:14,820 coming out of the skull some of the 169 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:17,460 other projects I'm working on is still 170 00:08:25,010 --> 00:08:22,320 working a lot with normal cases UFO 171 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:25,020 cases obviously I'll never give those up 172 00:08:30,770 --> 00:08:29,070 so really heavily embedded in that right 173 00:08:34,699 --> 00:08:30,780 now we have a lot of open cases with 174 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:34,709 that and the the other things that are 175 00:08:38,570 --> 00:08:36,479 on my desk right now and something I'm 176 00:08:41,420 --> 00:08:38,580 thoroughly enjoying is the international 177 00:08:44,029 --> 00:08:41,430 investigations and there's a lot of 178 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:44,039 cases opening and coming to us from Cuba 179 00:08:48,980 --> 00:08:47,430 now that relationships are open and of 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:48,990 course you know my heart's always going 181 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,650 to be in South America Mexico a lot of 182 00:08:59,390 --> 00:08:55,040 opportunities coming forward to 183 00:09:01,490 --> 00:08:59,400 investigate completely start new 184 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:01,500 relationships with other countries that 185 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:04,020 haven't had that bridge or that they 186 00:09:07,049 --> 00:09:05,800 don't have our knowledge either 187 00:09:09,389 --> 00:09:07,059 so I think it's just a huge opportunity 188 00:09:11,999 --> 00:09:09,399 I'm really looking forward to doing more 189 00:09:14,549 --> 00:09:12,009 in Cuba and in meeting the ufologist 190 00:09:17,059 --> 00:09:14,559 down there the politics are completely 191 00:09:20,189 --> 00:09:17,069 different being in a communist country 192 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:20,199 the ufologists that have been working 193 00:09:23,999 --> 00:09:21,970 there have to work in secret 194 00:09:27,359 --> 00:09:24,009 because you're not allowed to gather as 195 00:09:30,179 --> 00:09:27,369 in a group under the communism currently 196 00:09:34,109 --> 00:09:30,189 in Cuba unless you registered the group 197 00:09:36,629 --> 00:09:34,119 and are approved to do so and of course 198 00:09:38,609 --> 00:09:36,639 when they tried to register UFOs weren't 199 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:38,619 in the radar so this group has really 200 00:09:43,319 --> 00:09:41,290 been trying to do the work very secretly 201 00:09:44,970 --> 00:09:43,329 so now that things have changed and 202 00:09:47,669 --> 00:09:44,980 relationships are open we're hoping to 203 00:09:50,069 --> 00:09:47,679 help them with that to go down there and 204 00:09:52,650 --> 00:09:50,079 help them with even supplies I thought 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:52,660 it was great when we asked them what we 206 00:09:56,129 --> 00:09:54,610 could do here in the state says you 207 00:09:57,900 --> 00:09:56,139 follow just what what's the first thing 208 00:10:00,619 --> 00:09:57,910 we could do to help them and they 209 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:00,629 actually asked for paper and pencils and 210 00:10:06,539 --> 00:10:04,290 I thought out of all the equipment an 211 00:10:08,729 --> 00:10:06,549 investigator that's our bread and butter 212 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:08,739 that is the one thing you don't leave 213 00:10:14,369 --> 00:10:11,170 home without and yet they could use help 214 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:14,379 with that so there's there's I think 215 00:10:19,079 --> 00:10:17,410 challenging but amazing work that's 216 00:10:21,090 --> 00:10:19,089 going to come out of Cuba and I can't 217 00:10:23,669 --> 00:10:21,100 wait to hear some of this the UFO events